Comments on: Houston, Wii have a problem. Where did Wii go wrong? https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/ The Musings of Paul Ellis Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.6 By: TechConsumer.com » Blog Archive » Houston, Wii have a problem. Where did Wii go wrong? https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-1094 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:33:00 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-1094 […] Note: This article is cross-posted at PseudoSavant. […]

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By: Scoota https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-319 Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:06:07 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-319 I was pissed off because when i compare 360 graphics and wii graphics its just a damn shame

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By: micheal https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-318 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:14:48 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-318 the wii may not have good games but at least they got original. what have the changed from the ps2 to the ps3. all they did was add new graphics and features yeah thats really original (360 ok)

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By: Nintendo Profit Quadruples, Wii Continues to Outsell Competition | TechConsumer https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-317 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:30:32 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-317 […] will the success last in the long run? Is there more fun to be had by the casual gamer past Wii Sports? Whatever the […]

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By: Leisure: Don’t tell me how to waste my time! | TechConsumer https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-316 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:48:23 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-316 […] after my Wii post from yesterday, I wanted to clear something up. This post really has nothing to do with the Wii, but the response […]

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By: Paul Ellis https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-315 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:49:01 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-315 So, I thought I’d jump in and my $.02 to the comments so far. I am not saying that it is dumb to have a Wii, there are just things that Nintendo is weak on, and I am sick of people acting like they are untouchable. That same kind of attitude got Sony in the PS3 debacle they are now dealing with. To be honest, I like Microsoft’s long-term strategy the most, but Nintendo is doing very well right now, and you can’t count out the biggest name in gaming with the Playstation 3 (220 Million units between PS1 and PS2). I think I am one of a very select few that doesn’t really like the PS3 (mostly because of its price point) that thinks Sony could still win this generation (in spite of it all).

As for the games, Smash Bros will sell some units, and So will Super Mario Galaxy, but Halo 3 (Xbox 360), GTA IV (PS3 and 360), MGS4 (PS3 for now) will all probably sell more units in the first week or two than those Wii games will sell in their lifetime. “Must-have” is a relative-term and “must-have” is probably a bigger market on the 360 and PS3 still.

Case in point, the biggest selling 360 game so far is Gears of War at 3.7 million units. The biggest selling Wii game (outside of the included WiiSports) is Zelda at 3.3 million units. They both came out around the same time. A brand new IP game on 360 outsold one of the biggest franchises in gaming history on the Wii. Again, I think much of this can be attributed to the fact that many Wii owners are content with WiiSports.

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By: somebody https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:44:09 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-314 Its stated in the article that Nintendo has no big must-have holiday game. What a piece of BS. Smash Bros. Brawl will be a huge profit maker for Nintendo. Anyone whos owned a Gamecube and now has a Wii (theres alot)will buy this game. Not to mention that they also have Super Mario Galaxy coming out, with the reviews saying it is a great game.

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By: Nikk Bobo https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-313 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:18:02 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-313 Wii owners and Mac users are a lot alike in that they are so busy enjoying and evangelizing their product that they are often blind to its faults. Being a Wii owner myself I have to fight to maintain an objective opinion. So while it’s tempting to simply refute many of Paul’s comments I have to agree on a few points. First, that it will be difficult for Nintendo to hold on to the hardcore gamers. but that assumes that they ever had them. I think Nintendo gave up trying to hold that crowd long before this next gen war ever started (as their marketing strategy would indicate). The second is that the game lineup really could be better (though this may already be changing as third party developers are taking Wii more seriously now). I feel like most the games, though fun, have a kidish feel to them and I would love some serious online play.

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By: alext https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-312 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:30:19 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-312 Apparently the people complaining about bias and this not being “journalism” have never read an opinion column before?

You bring up some good points and I agree with the one about the Wii just not having the same staying power as the Xbox 360 and PS3. They’re definitely going to suffer in the future with the crowd that likes to have the pretty graphics to look at, but at the moment, they’re succeeding in causing Sony and Microsoft to re-evaluate who is buying their hardware and why.

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By: Andy https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-311 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:14:21 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-311 I have equal distaste for the Wii and agree with most of the points in the article, but it’s true what has been commented…it all comes down to taste.

The Wii will cater to those that enjoy those cartoony games with queer looking animals that bounce around in tree tops and collect gum drops or bananas…fuck that…give me a Vertical Tank or a Robar RC50

I thought the “chess to checkers” analogy was particularly great

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By: 88days https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-310 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:45:18 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-310 Cheers, mate!! I had a go with Wii at Milan train station, there were three in display for travellers to enjoy, and believe me when your train is freakin’late, smacking a tennis ball with that thing is quite a relief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that I come to think about it, did they do on purpose, as to avoid pissed off customers to run after railways attendants??? that’s a thought…
Good fun nonetheless!

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By: Hans https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-309 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:00:29 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-309 I couldn’t agree more with 88days: a game is just a game and it is supposed to be fun. And that’s what all other consoles miss at this point. I hate tenis or baseball, but it’s really funny playing them with the wiimote.
As you said graphics are really basic, but I don’t care! I can play by moving a stick! I don’t have to remember to press A+B + down and then quickly A+up to jump…
I have never owned a gaming console before and I was considering buying a PS2, now that the prices are down. Paying more than 300 EUR. for a game, ruins a bit of the fun. Especially considering that at that price you can buy a computer. But after I saw that for the price of a PS2 + 100 EUR I can get a machine that has the power of a PS2 but a lot more potential, I decided it was worth the investment.
And your argument that you have to buy more wiimotes and nunchucks doesn’t make much sense because I don’t think any controller on the market comes with 2 controllers. But you are right about it: everyone wants a second controller for the Wii. Wii is a bit more social as a console and even people that don’t like “video games” have fun playing with that thing.
Graphics is not everything!

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By: 88days https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-308 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:36:11 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-308 Hi there,
I guess that, on a strict comparison exercise, your points are more than fair!! On the other hand, IMHO I believe that the Wii effect is heading another way altogether. Post here http://88days.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/a-game-is-a-game/!
It is all about very simple fun, no need for faster-than-F16 pilot reactions, no fiddling with more keys than in a church organ keyboard, it is just that, raw fun!!
I appreciate some of the gaming experience you mentioned are from outer space, compared, and quite truly I have enjoyed Call of Duty 1,2,3 to the utmost, still I think that Wii is doing a nice strategic move: it forces others to compete over its territory, rather than the other way round.
It may end up in a massive blunder, but would wait and see..

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By: Jamie Kennedy https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:33:59 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-307 Yea too biased.

Stop hating on the console already, they have proven to sell and you cant stop it.

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By: Jimmy Carter https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-306 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:25:43 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-306 I’m not really sure why people like this are evangeilzing so passionately against a gaming console, especially considering that it isn’t a matter of the product being inherently flawed as it is a matter of taste. If I made the argument that Honeynut Cheerios are not the cereal that you want to buy because they’re just a minor taste bump up from regular Cheerios and, therefore, not a true next-gen cereal worthy of your breakfast dollar, would you take me seriously and alter your plans based on my stunningly perfect rhetoric? Let’s hope not.

I did like the part, though, where you pretended that the Wii is the only console currently available that doesn’t include 4 controllers and all the peripherals you’ll ever need in the base price.

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By: jRm03 https://pseudosavant.com/blog/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-305 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:58:36 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2007/07/17/houston-wii-have-a-problem-where-did-wii-go-wrong/#comment-305 Too biased.

Go back to your PS3 or Xbox 360 and enjoy their games but stop writing anti-Nintendo articles, thats not what journalism is all about.

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